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Thursday, March 8, 2012

LiVE-R-PooL UpDate

LiVE-R-PooL UpDate  

post ar*e-nal & pre macams away

Having been robbed by R.V.P. the one man team from London snatched 3 points from us @Anfield last saturday and yet I see no reason, with our other close rivals all losing too, that we should give up.. 

I am sick & tired of pundits (many of them ex-players, who couldnt make it at high level management being so negative and quick to write us off - arsenal were cr*p until 2 weeks ago, yet suddenly after a couple of games they are "favourites@ too many "LFC"  websites & groups claim its being realistic to forget the Champions league - they are defeatists and dont belong to our club..

 Surely the previous records & even RECENT history of our club, proves that we shoudl NEVER give up??

I hope our team can win the rest of our games, starting saturday @sunderland..

Head to head (league only):
At Sunderland: Liverpool 29 wins, Sunderland 32 wins, 13 draws.
Overall: Liverpool 66 wins, Sunderland 50 wins, 33 draws. 

On the opening day of this season the sides drew 1-1 at Anfield. After missing a penalty on seven minutes Luis Suarez opened the scoring five minutes later. However, Sebastian Larsson equalised for the visitors 12 minutes into the second half. That header from Suarez was the first goal of the 2011-12 Premier League season and was the 250th scored by the Reds in league football against Sunderland. The last clash at the Stadium of Light saw Liverpool win 2-0 in March. Dirk Kuyt scored a first half penalty with Suarez clinching the points with his first goal away from Anfield.

Sunderland finished the game with 10 men following the sending off of John Mensah, though this was later rescinded.
That win on Wearside saw Kenny Dalglish record his 250th league win as a manager in England (with Liverpool, Blackburn and Newcastle).
In the 21 Premiership games between the clubs, Liverpool have won 12, drawn seven and lost two. The last hat-trick from a Liverpool player against the Black Cats was by Roger Hunt at Anfield in February 1966.

The last Liverpool hat-trick at Sunderland was scored by Joe Hewitt on New Year's Day 1909. Jay Spearing made his Liverpool debut against Sunderland at the Stadium of Light in October 2009.

Liverpool have suffered only two defeats at Sunderland in the last 26 league meetings going back to 1959. They have won 16 and drawn eight.
In the last 54 league games home and away Sunderland have won only four times.

Liverpool have conceded only seven goals in their last 19 league visits to Sunderland, keeping 14 clean sheets in the process.
The last Liverpool player sent off in this fixture was Momo Sissoko, dismissed for two yellow card offences in November 2005.        
Liverpool's biggest wins at Sunderland came in January 1909, December 1946 and August 1961 when they won 4-1.
The Reds' heaviest defeat at Sunderland saw them lose 7-0 in December 1912.

Liverpool have scored in 11 of the last 12 league visits to Wearside.
Jordan Henderson scored four league goals in 71 games for Sunderland and five in 79 in all competitions. He made more league appearances for the Black Cats than any other player last season, playing 37 of the 38 games.

Stewart Downing played seven games on loan at Sunderland in 2003-04 in the second tier - scoring three times.
On the opening day of the season Henderson, Downing, Charlie Adam and Jose Enrique made their Liverpool debuts while Wes Brown, Larsson, David Vaughan and Ji Dong-Won played for Black Cats for the first time.
When failing to score from the spot against Arsenal last Saturday Liverpool equalled the club record of six penalty misses in a season (excluding shoot-outs) previously set in 1963-64 and 1972-73.

Liverpool have won two of their last 10 league games since recording a 2-0 win at Aston Villa just before Christmas.Six of the Reds' 10 Premier League clean sheets have come away from home. Away from home they have won once in the last five in the league - at Wolves at the end of January (3-0). Sunderland have scored just one goal in the last five home meetings with the Reds.

The last seven league meetings on this ground have produced a win - five for Liverpool.  A Sunderland win will take them to within two points of Liverpool. Martin O'Neill was appointed as Sunderland manager at the beginning of December. Since he officially took charge they have lost just four of the 17 games played in league and cup, winning 10. 

Against Liverpool he has won five of 16 league games during his managerial career with Leicester City and Aston Villa.
In the Premier League Sunderland have picked up 23 points out of a possible 39 under Martin O'Neill. When Steve Bruce was dismissed the Black Cats had 11 points from 13 games.

They have lost only one of the last six league games at home - beaten 2-1 by Arsenal last month after leading with 15 minutes to go.   
Of their 13 home league games this season they have won five, drawn four and lost four. The four defeats have come at the hands of Newcastle, Chelsea, Wigan and Arsenal. 

The Black Cats became the last of the 20 Premier League clubs to score a penalty this season when Nicklas Bendtner scored from the spot in the 1-1 draw at Newcastle last Saturday.

Stevie's Back.....YOU are OUR CAPTAIN.. .

DONT get injured for ENg-ur-lund again!!

All of Sunderland's three red cards this season have been awarded against Newcastle, with leading scorer Stephane Sessegnon and captain Lee Cattermole sent off six days ago. Sessegnon will miss his first game of the season through the resulting suspension. Sunderland defender Sotirios Kyrgiakos played 30 times in the Premier League for Liverpool, scoring three times.

      • REdNeT ‎...when "all" is revealed NO one ; @ RBS, Broughton , Purslow, Ayres, @ NESV ( "FSG") will look much "nicer" than the frauds G & H!

      • REdNeT ChriS (Justice) SMITH ;)

  1. FuTuREdS ..time for testing in the first team/ if they can compete against 9 first-teamers of the bluenoses?

    Young Reds hold Jagielka and co
    Liverpool's youngsters produced a fantastic performance to earn a goalless draw with an experienced Everton Reserves side at Goodison Park on Tuesday afternoon.

  2. Rafa Benitez: 'Liverpool FC fans love me and would understand if I took Chelsea job' - Liverpool FC. ( )
     RAFA BENITEZ admits he would be interested in managing a “top club” and believes Liverpool FC supporters would understand if he took over at Chelsea.

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      Critical: Paul McGrath had his say on the matter after the Wigan match
      Critical: Paul McGrath had his say on the matter after the Wigan match
      COPYRIGHT STATEMENT: This video is property of Liverpool FC, LFCTV, Sky Sports, ESPN, Setana Sports, FIFA and idiots ;)

      Glen Johnson exclusive: Evra made it clear he didn't REALLY want to shake Suarez's hand

      By Ian Ladyman

      Glen Johnson was five players down the line when Luis Suarez seemingly refused to shake hands with Patrice Evra at Old Trafford last month. He didn’t see it. 

      The Liverpool defender has watched it plenty  of times on television since, though, and he is  convinced of what happened.
      ‘Evra was clever at Old Trafford,’ said Johnson, extending his hand directly towards me. ‘Because - I’m not being funny - but if I wanted to shake your hand I would stick it right out in front of me like that. But if my hand is down here, almost by my side, then it’s because I really don’t want to shake your hand.
      On the ball: Glen Johnson is convinced Luis Suarez would never use racist words and backs him over the Patrice Evra handshake affair
      On the ball: Glen Johnson is convinced Luis Suarez would never use racist words and backs him over the Patrice Evra handshake affair‘Luis didn’t shake his hand because Evra’s hand was down there. What else is Luis supposed to do? Would you go to shake someone’s hand if their hand is way down there by their side? Course not. But then, because Luis didn’t do it, Evra has pulled him back by his arm as he walked on, as if to say to everybody: “Look, I wanted to shake his hand and he didn’t…”
      ‘He’s following Luis with his eyes as if to say: “Right he’s gone, he’s gone (past me) so I’ll pull him back now…” Evra probably stayed up all night thinking about how to do that. The whole thing was ridiculous.’
      This week Johnson became the first member of Kenny Dalglish’s squad to talk in detail about the Suarez-Evra episode, a saga that shook football and - in many people’s eyes - left a dent in  Liverpool’s reputation.

      It would appear that those who think the  resentment surrounding this awful dispute has vanished are quite wrong.
      Controversy: Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra caused a storm with their non-handshake
      Controversy: Luis Suarez and Patrice Evra caused a storm with their non-handshake

      Glen Johnson is the guy who got dragged into a race storm that had nothing to do with him.
      Liverpool’s only black first-team player, the  England defender has been criticised by other black sportsmen for standing by Luis Suarez after the Uruguay forward was found by the FA to have made racist comments to Manchester United’s Patrice Evra during a game last October.

      Former United defender Paul McGrath took to Twitter on seeing Johnson join his team-mates in wearing T-shirts in support of Suarez as they warmed up before a game at Wigan.
      ‘If I was in Glen Johnson’s position, I would have thrown the shirt to the floor,’ said McGrath.

      Weeks later, Worcester and England sevens rugby player Marcel Garvey used the same social network to call Johnson an ‘Uncle Tom’. The term is used to describe blacks who are willingly subservient to whites. When we  met this week, Johnson remained baffled. Admirably phlegmatic, but baffled all the same.
      ‘It’s only an issue because I am the only black lad in the club,’ he shrugged. ‘If it’s bad that the other lads supported Luis then that should be seen as just as bad as me  supporting him. But people are on to me because I am black.

      ‘The McGrath thing … that’s actually racist. Saying what he said is racist. He is only saying that to me because I was the only black lad wearing the T-shirt. He’s targeting me because of my colour.

      ‘Listen, I’m my own man. If I have something I want to say or do then  I will do it. The reason I wore the  T-shirt is because I know 100 per cent Luis Suarez is not racist. He is one of the lads in the team that I get on with best of all at the club.
      ‘I am still on Twitter but I don’t use it much now. I was getting pathetic stuff on there. But that is what  people go on it for, to give people stick. I haven’t spoken to Paul McGrath about it. I don’t care what he thinks, really. I don’t know anything about him. But for someone to say that, it sums them up. It’s their problem.
      Getting shirty: Johnson showed his support for Suarez, like the rest of his team, by wearing controversial t-shirts before a Premier League game at Wigan
      Getting shirty: Johnson showed his support for Suarez, like the rest of his team, by wearing controversial t-shirts before a Premier League game at Wigan
      ‘As for the rugby guy… well, that was really intelligent wasn’t it? I don’t know who this geezer is either. He should stick to playing rugby.

      ‘If I was to react to everyone’s comments I would be arguing every single day, you know? Like I say, for someone like that to write such a stupid message … well, make your own judgment.’
      Johnson sat down with me this week in  Warrington as part of an obligation to promote a new England sticker collection for children. Scheduled to do a host of media engagements, he was willing and courteous as he talked and signed card after card that would subsequently be distributed to youngsters.
      Traditionally not an easy interviewee, the 27–year-old nevertheless spoke openly, intelligently and at length about the Suarez issue. It is clear he has no doubt about his team-mate’s innocence.

      Along with many others, I have been fiercely critical of Liverpool’s handling of the affair. Nevertheless,  Johnson’s reasoning was compelling to listen to, even if it was not enough to persuade me Dalglish and his club dealt with the issue as well as they should have done.

      ‘The evidence was Luis’s word against Evra’s,’ argued Johnson. ‘I’m not saying Evra is lying but it’s his word against Luis’s, isn’t it? So how did it all turn out to be so strong in Evra’s favour? I work with the lad every day. There is no way he said that.

      ‘With the media these days and the way it was going to be blown up, maybe the T-shirts thing wasn’t the right thing to do. How should I say this? We wore them to show our support for Luis. It wasn’t to send a message to everyone else. It was just for him.
      ‘It seemed to come across that we were making a point. We weren’t. It was the club’s idea. But obviously we all agreed. We didn’t really think about how  people would react.’

      The core argument of Suarez’s defence was that the word ‘negrito’ — which he was found to use to Evra at Anfield last October  —  is not an abusive term in South America.  Suarez has played in Europe since 2007. Many impartial judges believe he should have known better. 

      Johnson, though, accepts Suarez’s defence. He tweeted his support of his friend the day after the T-shirts came out at Wigan. His  loyalty to Suarez is admirable. It is clearly genuine, as is his fear that Suarez may turn his back on the Barclays Premier League.

      ‘I wrote what I thought on Twitter,’ Johnson recalled. ‘Then when I saw him the next day he came over and said thanks and that it meant a lot to him. I didn’t write that for him to come and say thank you. I just wanted to let people know my point of view. Like it or hate it, I don’t care.

      ‘It was nice for him to see his team-mates supporting him, I guess. But what people don’t appreciate is that these things stick with people and it can ruin careers. He could get almost forced out of Liverpool.

      ChriS>and isnt that their intention???
       GJ> He’s a good lad and a fantastic player and all he wants to do is get on and play football.
      ‘I can’t understand how people don’t get that in his culture the word “negro” or “negrito” is genuinely normal. Just because he’s out of his country he is not going to stop using his mother tongue. If we went to another country, we would use our slang, wouldn’t we? I can’t see why somebody can get in trouble for using his culture in another country.

      ‘I work with him every day. I know what he is like. Other people don’t. I will not change my view.’

      Brought up in Greenwich, south London, Glen Johnson used to fight with those who called him names associated with his colour. Happily for him, he has not had to put his fists up during his years in the professional game with West Ham, Chelsea, Portsmouth and now Liverpool.

      ‘Obviously, racism was there,’ he reflected. ‘Like any kid I had my fights growing up after somebody called me something stupid and I reacted the wrong way. ‘But I think the game is OK. We have had the two big issues this season, with two high-profile players who you wouldn’t expect it from. But I have never had it in a game from another player. Never. 

      ‘When something like this happens then it seems to put it in people’s minds again and then it happens more for a period until  people forget about it again.

      ‘It’s very frustrating for all the people who work in the anti-racism campaigns. They must think their work is being undone. But I don’t feel like that at all.
      Johnson can empathise with Suarez a  little. He, too, has had image problems. During his time at Chelsea and Portsmouth, his commitment to the game was questioned.
      Settled: Johnson is enjoying life on Merseyside, and is in a rich vein of form
      Settled: Johnson is enjoying life on Merseyside, and is in a rich vein of form
      Two stories stuck with him, one suggesting he forgot his passport on a Chelsea trip — it was actually a club official’s fault — and another that he had tried to steal a toilet seat, of all things, from a hardware store.

      ‘There were a lot of things said and written that weren’t great,’ he said. ‘It has died down a bit and it is all about football now, which is what I want to be known for. But it took a while and that’s why I feel for Luis. Mud sticks. The B&Q one was ridiculous. There was nothing else to do but laugh. 

      Settled: Johnson was an £18million signing from Portsmouth by Rafa Benitez
      ‘I mean, come on, did anyone really believe I would do that? What thief walks through the till trying to pay with their credit card in their hand? They are normally running out of the door, aren’t they?

      ‘The thing is that things like that affect everybody. My mum is hearing things she doesn’t need to be hearing. My brother is hearing things he is having rows about.
      ‘But it’s gone now. Now it’s just about the football. That’s how I want it.’

      Settled: Johnson was an £18million signing from Portsmouth to Liverpool by Rafael Benitez, Johnson suffered a little under Dalglish’s predecessor Roy Hodgson last season. The current West Bromwich manager didn’t always seem to trust his defensive work. It is something Johnson has heard before. 

      Say what you like about the modern Liverpool, but it would be wrong to question the club’s unity or sense of purpose. The Premier League season may not yet yield the top-four finish many would consider a pre-requisite, but Liverpool do have the Carling Cup on the shelf.

      Liverpool also have Kenny Dalglish, their iconic manager, who is clearly as revered inside the home dressing room as he is on the Kop. Happily for Johnson and his team-mates, though, the Scot has abandoned his early attempts to join in during training.
      ‘When he first started he trained with us for a couple of sessions but he needed a few days’ rest afterwards and knocked it on the head,’ smiled Johnson. ‘At the end — after the hard work — we have little games and he would join in but everybody was too scared to go near him. It was like, “You can’t tackle Kenny Dalglish!”

      ‘It was good to see, though. He was a  legend as a player and is a legend around the club. He came in and steadied the  ship and brought a fantastic coach in Steve Clarke. 

      ‘Training is sharper and he just put a smile on everybody’s face.
      ‘We are a tight unit. We defend together and do everything together. We are close on and off the pitch. Kenny Dalglish is good at that. 

      ‘He places an emphasis on it and makes sure he involves everybody. We look forward to going into training and you can see that on people’s faces.’ 

      Johnson accepts a campaign that ends without a place in next  season’s Champions League cannot be considered an unqualified success.  ‘No, I wouldn’t say that it would be a success,’ he said. ‘We need to be in the top four. That’s what we would take above all others.’
      Race for fourth: Liverpool are the outsiders to secure a Champions League place
      Race for fourth: Liverpool are the outsiders to secure a Champions League placeHe is clearly a player, though, who is intelligent enough to understand what the club has been through this season. There is a sense that the next one cannot start soon enough. Time to wipe the slate clean.

      Johnson has only been at Anfield for two-and-a-half years but has a clear understanding of the importance of the club’s reputation. It  is obvious that he takes no pleasure from discussing the Suarez case. There is no attempt to antagonise Manchester United or indeed Evra. It ought to be stated here that — in this interview — he was merely asked some questions and he answered them candidly. 

      Like everybody else, he wants to get back to the football.
      ‘People are now singing, week in week out, that Liverpool are a racist club,’ he sighed. ‘Well, no. We are not. We have had one  incident concerning racism that we believe isn’t true. So how can people think like that? People wanted something to happen that day. I don’t know why they didn’t just scrap the handshakes like they did before the Chelsea-QPR game.

      ‘It’s sad because those Liverpool and United games are known for big rivalries, big tackles, great football, love of the game.That day everything was not about the  football and that was very sad. It was about everything else.
      ‘It was good that both clubs came out afterwards and said, “We are over it, it’s in the past. Let’s move on”. That’s how it should be.‘Everybody should now start loving hating each other again. For football reasons.’

        B REdS @ LIVERPOOL
       - robbed twice but still HAPPY
    The MOST EXPENSIVE pic ever? U BREd group BEHIND the bar @ "The Albert"
    BREdS @ LIVERPOOL - robbed twice...
     but .......still HAPPY?

    ChriS> I was a bit "exhausted" after a "heavy weekend" leaving Pg thursday early, back early this morning, via Bg, -> Luton to LIVERPOOL & back, we were "robbed" on & off the field but despite the dark side , the general opinion.."another great weekend" and thanks for good company .. to "Big Andy, Mad ("cheeky" Miluton, Georgie Boy & all those we met along the way (inc the lovely "Spomenka" who made the return flight easier, pity she is married!) Tommy of the "Albert" or  Stewart in the International Inn's reception 

    ..but not "silly Rachel" the new "manager(L)ess" @ the Inn !!  ;) (even in Liverpool there are idiots who only obey the "rules" the lads had lost everything, they had with them and had brought..or bought in the Lfc shop to take back.. she wanted to charge them for leaving a small plastic bag in the locked-up room-with my carry-on bag ! I was the only one whose bag hadn't gone (my coat only stolen) as it was probably too big for the thieves to pull through the broken back window of the rented car...

    The League Trophy was OURS when we dominated football for 3 decades
    (CS & Georgie the "corrupt banker" could he get a job with RBS or FSG?)
     The main photo was taken BEHIND the bar with boss of the World - famous "Albert" pub @ the KOP , LIVERPOOL ...our car was being robbed at the time, a great pity, as i have never had anything stolen in Lp before, in 40 years, as we had made good time to get the lads on the last KOP tour, to get shopping done, and visit "THE Albert" our tickets were on the Annie Road, the boys could get a "feel of the KOP" although it will NEVER be the same as my own first time, around 25,000 TRUE SUPPORTERS standing & singing from before the start until well after the end of the getting "KOP surfed" as was only a small young lad...(still am! ;) 
    The BREdS t-shirt, still available @ "west pub"
    VERY FEW people on this planet  "know me"  or that I am entirely ALONE, having  lost all those close to me in the last 20 years, one by one, including my kids, by others neglect or to see and feel the enjoyment of young people, is VITAL to my have a social & hopefully POSITIVE influence, on other people , THAT makes me feel warm, and young, myself...

    especially, when I can support them, using my "know-how" organising a local "Balkan REdS " meeting in Bar (MNE) or sharing a meet in serbian "Stara P" or with MacREdS in s-KOP-je or sponsoring t-shirts for the meetings in Bosnian Tuzla or in Podgorica for the League cup final..

    Whether coaching footy to street kids, helping young musicians get gigs or cut CD's or simply to guide young OR disadvantages, in any way possible...(even if they dont appreciate my words at the time!)

     or AS LAST weekEND TO SHARE in these young men's r first experience of Anfield, Liverpool & Britain..and meet the people I love..   gives me a warm HUMAN & "familiar" feeling that I dont get from having close family of my own...

    A pint of "Smiths" for Georgie-boy
    And Cheeky isnt "bitter" about the beer either
    Half empty, no! U B REdS = half FULL
    (pint @ "The Albert" Anfield after the Kop/museum tour)
    All together, before, inside & outide the Albert & the KOP
    somewhere to pray for the souls of R.V.P
    (ar*e-nal & other Thieves)?
    Biggest chinese arch >? Georgie looks small 
    my Mentor & "our Milos" ..."big Andy" ?
    The LIVER building...&...
    Match day "Brunch" sausages, egg, beans, bacon, toast & 
    Annie Road .."but no aggro" v arse-nal?
    Georgie Boy on Kop Tour 
    "Big Andy" on KOP tour....too
    Albert Docks with Djordje..
    Albert Docks with "Mad (cheeky) Milutin..
    The Lads with "Big ears" number 5 = and OURS!

    Big REdS = little church
    Cheeky before the match 3rd march 2012

     Ćiki Nasilnik It was great , although I might have looked exhausted
    I was really happy.

     s..hmmm.. enjoyed your company, I will be writing a "SClOG" about this weekend, if u wantt o comment, about the trip, the game, the experieneces, Liverpool, the people, the city ..your reaction or not, i would like to include..please tag me on any photos taken...  i am just taking it easy, " a bit tired" today..all the best to you!!

1 comment:

  1. Milos Adzic

    i just wanna say, thank you lads, for making this weekend unforgetable [:)]

    Djordje Lazarevic

    yeah, it was great! upload photos [:)]


    On the weekend

    Even what happened cant overshadow this weeken. I had lot of time thinking about it, and i can only say that for me it was brilliant. I fell in love witj the city, and i can thank you Chris for making my lifelong dream come true.

    Ćiki Nasilnik

    The robbery thing wouldn't have been so strange if it happened silently during the night, but it was a bit shocking that it happened violently and in the middle of the sunny day after at enjoying the great beer in a great place.

    Besides loosing the game, although we created many chances, (penalty, 2 posts + Suarez shot and Kelly's miss)
    the only bad thing this weekend was tiredness and back pain I felt from the beginning, that maybe made me look unsatisfied.

    but in fact, I wasn't.
    I was enjoying the city, the architecture, the way the tradition was kept, and the way everything looked different, at least for us, the continentals.

    The English cuisine was great for me as I prefer proper meals with a lot of meat. I also love how the place across the road from the Kop had that 70's interior and feeling,

    and people everywhere were
    very kind and friendly.
    I didn't experience Liverpool's nightlife because of exhaustion but I'm sure that I'll visit the city again, someday.

    Thank you Chris for organizing this trip,
    for making our dreams come true.
    We appreciate the effort you made,
    and despite such exhausting circumstances you were driving twice from LTN to LP in two days like it's your everyday job.

    We love you, Liverpool, we do.